tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post6322498358480785860..comments2024-01-20T17:23:34.332-05:00Comments on another hundred years hence: design of democracy (7.2): a new designUrbano dela Cruzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04789741333608173414noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-86448164390667748912008-01-23T17:03:00.000-05:002008-01-23T17:03:00.000-05:00Hello Urbano,I've just happenned upon your blog vi...Hello Urbano,<BR/>I've just happenned upon your blog via Fred's and have read through your 'Design for Democracy'.<BR/><BR/>Congratulations. Your work, like Fred's, is outstanding. There is a scientific term that escapes me for the moment but I've just seen an example of it.<BR/><BR/>That is, the simultaneous evolution of the same principle in two geographically distant places.<BR/><BR/>To an Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-10099301176077971892007-05-21T22:29:00.000-04:002007-05-21T22:29:00.000-04:00Good Evening, UDCMy difficulty in posting about Ac...Good Evening, UDC<BR/><BR/>My difficulty in posting about Active Democracy is that I think my views need to be challenged ... as you did so well.<BR/><BR/>I recognize and respect that you have many other commitments. I'm hoping other thoughtful people interested in improving our political infrastructure will critique the concept. I don't mind being wrong ... if my error can be demonstrated withFred Gohlkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06760178942718291308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-839112248761485812007-05-20T22:34:00.000-04:002007-05-20T22:34:00.000-04:00sorry for the delayed reply folks.eugene,I will ta...sorry for the delayed reply folks.<BR/><BR/>eugene,<BR/><BR/>I will tackle that in two subsequent posts to this series. The system i am proposing can be self correcting. <BR/><BR/>There is a deeper logic to the mechanics in the system -and it involves the mismatch between Bell Curves (and Gaussian Distribution) vs. Power Laws (and Pareto Distribution).<BR/><BR/>(e.g. -our democratic aspirationsUrbano dela Cruzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04789741333608173414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-15684051538657573272007-05-20T22:13:00.000-04:002007-05-20T22:13:00.000-04:00Good Evening, UrbanoThanks very much for the refer...Good Evening, Urbano<BR/><BR/>Thanks very much for the reference to Dunbar ... just one item in that huge encyclopedia of information I hadn't encountered before. I find the concept intuitively appealing. I'd be intimidated in a group of 2,500 people but would find 150 more approachable.<BR/><BR/>For the past couple of months, I've had the privilege of sitting in on a Introductory Political Fred Gohlkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06760178942718291308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-4018336700702441522007-05-18T13:53:00.000-04:002007-05-18T13:53:00.000-04:00Urbano, your points are well-taken. I guess, there...Urbano, your points are well-taken. I guess, there should really be no distinction between functional positions.<BR/><BR/>Going back to your design. I'd say that it is quite ingenious. It provides simplicity and maximum accountability.<BR/><BR/>What do you think are the possible problems of this design (assuming, of course, that implementation is not too much of a problem)? What possible modes ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-81577255980871215862007-05-17T14:00:00.000-04:002007-05-17T14:00:00.000-04:00good point Eugene. In theory, the positions do re...good point Eugene. In theory, the positions do require different skills sets.<BR/><BR/>I doubt, however, if anyone has ever campaigned on "Good Legislator" -it's pretty much all about leadership. We can take a cross section of both legislative and executive incumbents and compare their resumes. My bet is that there will be plenty of crossover between executive roles and oversight roles.<BR/>Urbano dela Cruzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04789741333608173414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-62428993449820863312007-05-17T13:43:00.000-04:002007-05-17T13:43:00.000-04:00Your design is ignoring the fact that positions ar...Your design is ignoring the fact that positions are divided into either executive or legislative functions. For example, the mayor (and its appointive departments--e.g., treasurer, engineering, sanitation, etc.) is executive in nature while the vice mayor is the "speaker of the house" of the city/municipal council that creates local ordinances--a legislative function.<BR/><BR/>These functions Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-11900300522395236642007-05-09T14:00:00.000-04:002007-05-09T14:00:00.000-04:00fred,thanks so much for continuing to follow this ...fred,<BR/><BR/>thanks so much for continuing to follow this thread.<BR/><BR/>To answer some of your concerns:<BR/><BR/>1) yes, you can only run in the barangay of your residence. <BR/><BR/>moreso, in my proposed system, no one runs for president, everyone runs for barangay council. so they must address super local issues in their campaign.<BR/><BR/>2) 2,500 - that's about the size of a standard Urbano dela Cruzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04789741333608173414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-47944228379969403692007-05-09T13:44:00.000-04:002007-05-09T13:44:00.000-04:00cvj,sorry for the delayed reply. this thing called...cvj,<BR/><BR/>sorry for the delayed reply. this thing called a day job keeps getting in the way of blogging.<BR/><BR/>no, I didn't consciously pattern this after PROC's system. I was aware of the local electoral system (villages, towns and cities can elect their leaders) in China -and knew that their local party chairmen moved up successive councils till the national people's assembly.<BR/><BR/>Urbano dela Cruzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04789741333608173414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-70119649464417320992007-05-08T03:04:00.000-04:002007-05-08T03:04:00.000-04:00Have you consciously patterned your model after th...Have you consciously patterned your model after that of the Chinese Communist party in the People's Republic of China?cvjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327799000000108953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12774101.post-2045186582939773002007-05-06T23:09:00.000-04:002007-05-06T23:09:00.000-04:00reposting this comment for koikaze, because I stup...reposting this comment for <A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/profile/06760178942718291308" REL="nofollow">koikaze</A>, because I stupidly turned of the comments.<BR/><BR/>Koikaze says:<BR/><BR/>Good Evening, Urbano<BR/><BR/>(I couldn't find a "comment" clicker at the bottom of 7.2. Perhaps you didn't want any feedback. I hope that's not the case.)<BR/><BR/>When I think about each level of your Urbano dela Cruzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04789741333608173414noreply@blogger.com